The Origins of Jesus

April 1, 2023

The Origins of Jesus

by R.E. Prindle

This discussion relies heavily on P.M.. Fraser’s history Ptolemaic Alexandria.

The discussion has delayed proceedings since there was a rather hot discussion concerning nationality of Jesus.

Our approach here is a psychological one while the discussion is on the macro or societal level and not the personal.   It is necessary then to introduce a more detailed account of the conditions in the East Mediterranean  at the time of Jesus.   The great mélange of nations in Alexandria under the Ptolemies.

It appears that many of the terms we have been employing were not understood by our members.

Alexander the Great conquered the Eastern world to the Western part of India.  He died on his and the Army’s return, the Hellenic Empire he created then being divided among his generals.  The province of Egypt fell to the general named Ptolemy, hence Ptolemaic Alexandria, which city he founded in the conquest.  Thus the Delta of Egypt from -300 to approximately the year 0 was governed by Greeks.  Greek customs, mores and language.

A concept that may be hard to grasp apart from the annual calendar time is that it existed within the Ages of Aries and Pisces of the Zodiac. There are two manners of counting time involved.  At this exact time the Age of Aries was ending and the Age of Pisces was beginning.  That meant that the avatar of Aries, Zeus was now displaced and that there was a search for the new avatar of Pisces.  In the Greek version of the Zodiac, their god Dionysus had been appointed to succeed Zeus. But, the conquest of the East Mediterranean by Alexander had created a larger Greek dominion of various gods and goddesses thus demoting Dionysus to merely a candidate.

The key players the Greeks, the Egyptians and more especially the Jews had to be placated.  Rome would enter the scene near the year 0.  Determining the outcome would take a few hundred years of religious turmoil and great political changes.  The question will be asked, who did this?  I think probably the religious schools of the time and the place Alexandria. 

The great Egyptian religion that had existed for thousands of years was the focal point.  Egypt had been battered by various conquerors over the last eight hundred years or so,  that’s eight hundred, call it a millennium, so that the priesthood had had to be flexible and adaptive to maintain itself at all.  It had done that and now on the annual level when the Greek governors assumed control about the year -300 the priesthood of Memphis had come up with a solution.  They simply legislated a new god, Serapis.  Serapis was a universal god becoming no longer strictly an Egyptian god.

Imagine that, creating a god.  What does that say about godhood.  If you can just create a god how much is being a god worth?  And what happens to the old gods?  There must have been a horde of gods asking: What next?

Well, there was an answer.  You simply amalgamate gods with similar functions.  The bigger States having the bigger say.  So, Dionysus, the Greek putative avatar of Pisces was amalgamated with the chief Egyptian god, Osiris.  Osiris in his original form in Egypt couldn’t be exported so he was folded into Dionysus.

In his Egyptian form Osiris was the god of the rise of the Nile.  The Nile before all the dams, rose and flooded Egypt in August at the time of the Dog Star.  In brief and to the purpose his story is that he had a battle with the evil Set.        

Losing he was dismembered into fourteen pieces and distributed around.  His wife and sister, Isis, searched and found all the pieces and put them back together while Osiris’s penis had been thrown into the Nile and couldn’t be recovered.  Thus in the annual procession before the rise of the Nile celebrating Osiris the body of Osiris was carried along with a wooden penis operated by strings so that it could be raised into an erection and lowered.  When erect the magical effect was that the Nile would rise and flood the land again because Osiris’s penis was in the waters.  A mighty fine procession but it wouldn’t be the same outside Egypt so Osiris became the Egyptian contribution to the avatar of Pisces.

Now, I’m going to have to take this out of order.  The Jewish contribution to Pisces was Jesus.  Thus Jesus is a tripartite image.   Dionysus/Osiris/Jesus.  Now, leaping ahead let us consider the alleged birth of Jesus in the manger.  That is pure Zodiacal myth that was manufactured long after the fact when the succession had become clear..

Let us compare the birth of Jesus with the birth of Zeus.  Zeus was the avatar of the Age of Aries, his father Cronus was the avatar of the Age of Taurus, and his father was Uranos the avatar of Gemini.  The Ages change every two thousand one hundred and fifty years so historically we’re looking at six thousand and odd years between Gemini and the end of Aries..

When Cronus heard that he was to be replaced by one of his children he attempted to evade the problem by eating them when they were born.  When Zeus was born on the island of Crete he was immediately hidden in a cave and carefully watched so no signs were visible to Cronus until Zeus was grown and could do battle, and there was a tremendous battle that Zeus ultimately won thus taking his place as the new avatar.

Now at the Age of Pisces the matter was handled thusly.  Remember the human mind is now two thousand and odd years matured and what was possible at the beginning of Aries was no longer credible at the end.  Times change.  And the times were in turmoil.  Also bear in mind that this myth of the baby Jesus in the manger was put together many long years after the crucifixion and backdated. That was likely real. A historical Jesus must have existed however it is impossible that he would have been recognized as an infant.  Therefor we have a myth of the birth of the Age of Pisces attached to the death of Jesus.

The story goes that two obscure Jewish people with no distinctions, the woman, Mary being not only pregnant but at the point of delivery arrive at the inn.  The inn of Nazareth refuses to admit them.  Now I don’t know how the reader envisions an inn of a small dusty dump of a town but I see it as a small dirty building of three or four rooms and a dining room.  I’m sure the inn was full, no rooms available.  This is a normal situation but as Mary is in extreme labor pains at that very moment they are put up in the only unoccupied place available, that of the barn or stable.  Mary drops the kid on the spot in the Manger.  Lucky her.  Now, this isn’t any ordinary kid, it is the child of destiny.  How do we know this?  Because there are three great kings from the East traveling from afar because they somehow know that a child is being born.  How do they know?  Because they are ‘following’ the star of the new age of Pisces, which apparently hovers over the stable in Nazareth.

Now, these guys traveled from afar, from Persia. They somehow divined some years previously, one presumes, as would be natural is they were studying the skies, that a baby, who is destined to be the light of the world will be born in a town none of them ever heard of and located they couldn’t know where.

By what magical means did they find the way to where X marked the spot?  They followed a star.  There is a great debate of which star that was.  It isn’t even an inkling of a mystery.  The Age of Pisces had dawned and the Kings followed the star of the constellation of Pisces.  Worked for some reason.

   These kings are portrayed to be in magnificent raiment, wearing gold crowns and carrying gifts the price of which would feed all Israel for at least a year.  Now, picture these three kings walking along for months with these gifts in their hands, without a military escort to ward off bandits and here they are at the exact moment Mary drops the Babe.  Her last scream of pain hadn’t yet faded away and here come the three kings though the door.  This never happened, don’t even think it.

Compare this with the Zeus of two thousand years earlier.  Instead of a cave like Zeus,  the Babe is born in hovel with a strong aroma of urine and droppings.  Zeus had to be protected so the goddesses looked after him.  Cronus was not going to eat him!  By the way, Mary and Joseph didn’t exist either.  I don’t know about the inn.

So, in Jesus’ case word gets around that a Holy Babe has been born who will be the King of Israel.  Well, King Herod says ‘We can’t have that.’  So, get this, he orders that every male child in Israel born in the last two years be snuffed hoping to eliminate his successor.  Sound familiar.  In order to secure the Babe from immolation he was sent out of the country.  To where?  Where else than Egypt, that weak reed that the Jews always relied on.

So, some many decades later when Jesus wins election to be the avatar of Pisces this myth was invented and affixed to him.  The Babe never existed but in +33 a historical Jesus does and he has offended the elders of Israel.  Who was Jesus and where did he come from?  Let’s go back to Egypt.

Remember the Memphite Egyptian priest?  History sort of deprives the ancients of personality but they were real people dealing with real problems.  They weren’t stick figures.  The City of the Sun was near Memphis.  Real people devised the City of the Sun as a utopia while the longing for a utopia lived past the end of that dream. Euhemerus wrote his utopia  The Sacred City in this era.   The fact that the Memphites could invent a god out of whole cloth and impose him on the population is a sign that the gods were no longer taken viscerally but more intellectually.  Jesus himself would be a new god, a manmade god as it were.

Alexander’s conquest heralded the need for a universal god for at least the East Med as their notions of geography were somewhat limited.  But there was a problem that existed and had existed for a long time and that was the exclusiveness of the Jews.  In our time, of course, we have been taught to revere the Jews on their own terms, but this was not the case in ancient times.  The Jews were a stumbling block on all terms, they refused to cooperate with anyone. 

The Eastern world accepted the conquest of Alexander and found Greek customs, attitudes and thinking amenable except for the Jews.  Well, the Sadducee faction adopted Greek manners and customs but not the Pharisees.  The Maccabees, more as bandits than a national army, fought the Syrian Greeks, to whom they were subject, tooth and nail and for a brief period were independent and then the Romans came and brought the Empire with them.

In Egypt they were a minority, a numerous minority, but unable to dominate, in Jerusalem they were the dominant people and not only that but within the Empire they were located in every city as a relatively large minority.  The Jerusalemites levied a 10% tithe on every Jew in the Empire from Rome to Jerusalem.  The gold flowed East and the Jewish province became very wealthy.  So wealthy that it thought it could challenge the Empire…and win.
The problem then was what to do with the Jews.  No anti-Semitism, just a stubborn block of people who wouldn’t submit to the standard but couldn’t impose their rule on the Empire.

In Alexandria and Egypt means of persuasion were sought. It was probably conceived that the main problem with the Jews was that they believed themselves a separate and superior people who their god had made his own people to the exclusion of all others.  In their vision of creation their god had created the peoples of the world.  Having done so he examined them all and found the Jews worthy and all others not.  So he made them his own special people, not human, but somewhere between the angels and the rest of mankind.  Well and good but their belief was shared only by themselves, as, indeed, it was only their fancy.

Therefore the attempt would be made to negate their exclusivity.  Hence, the Memphites created the Serapis and sent him downriver to Alexandria and said something like, ‘Try this.’

The idea was to preach Egyptian values to the Jews wrapped in the bright wrapping of an individual.  Now, remember, at this time the overarching astrological universal religion was changing Ages. So two things where going on.  Hence, an agent was necessary to carry the word to the Jews, that the god, their god, had changed his mind and no longer needed a special people.  After Jesus’ ministry it was phrased that God so loved the world at large that he sent his only begotten son to redeem not only the Jews but all the peoples of the world.

Now, who was Jesus?  Forget the Babe in the Manger, that is a pure myth created later to explain the supposed divinity of Jesus while also appointing him the avatar of the Piscean Age.  Sort of quid pro quo.  None of this happened all at one time but was spread out over a few hundreds of years.  It did not catch on easily or rapidly.

Jesus himself must have been trained in Egypt because his program was wholly Egyptian and hence was an abomination to the priesthood of Jerusalem.  Was Jesus Jewish?  There is no way to tell.  He educated and reared in Egypt.  He might as easily have been an ethnic Greek or Egyptian.  There is no way to tell.  At the very most he is termed Jewish because that was his ministry.  The Pharisees wasted no time in giving evidence of their displeasure labelling Jesus as a revolutionary,  Which he was, by the way.

So, Jesus must have been educated and trained in Egypt, hence he would have had Alexandrine appearance and manners, perhaps an Alexandrine accent.  If you read biblical history there were lots of saviors running around. Jesus was only one but as it turned out he had the best organization.

I can only speculate that the Memphite religion of Serapis was organized as nearly all religions are and that they had a corps of missionaries to spread their good word, and that was that god so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son to redeem it, or at least that is what the Jews did in Jerusalem.  Other missionaries would have gone to other locations with whatever success they had.

Jesus would have been recognized immediately as a Serapian missionary.  His whole program was Egyptian while being by its very nature antagonistic to Jewish beliefs.  Remember that these people were just as leery of innovators as today.  The execution of Jesus solved no problem for the Pharisees, the ruling party in Jerusalem.  The reason being that a very effective organization survived.  The Pharisees persecuted them to death. 

Paul rescued them by coming up with a plan to convert the goyim to the Minian religion, that is the Jewish predecessor to Christianity.  It was a good plan but it would only work when Jews were in the majority.  When the goyim became more numerous power naturally shifted to them and members of the dominant goy majority then took control.  The role of messiah and avatar of the  Age of Pisces had to be conceded to the Jewish faction for the good of all, but the Greek Dionysus and the Egyptian Osiris had to be recognized and they were combined with Jesus under the title of the Christ, to form the Christian religion.  Jesus, the Christ.  Jewish/Greek/Egyptian. The Christ being the Greek anointed or awaited one. That must have taken a couple hundred years to work out.  The church became ecumenical at that point but the Jews remained outside the Catholic or Universal Church remaining as they were previously an irritant.

Nothing had been settled, only changed.  The future would be just as troubled as the past had been.

One can’t expect all the members of a society to be convinced but the Society will move ahead on this basis.

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